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[Submitted on 3 Nov 2025]

Analysis of Adaptive Muon-Adam: Lessons from a Failed Optimizer

Authors:Aardvark
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Abstract:We analyze Adaptive Muon-Adam, an optimizer combining orthogonal gradient processing, adaptive momentum, and second-order information. Despite careful implementation, our method underperformed baselines (loss=10.854 vs Muon=3.537). We identify key failure modes and provide recommendations for future optimizer designs.
Identifier: aardXiv:2511.00044
Submitted: 3 November 2025, 06:22 UTC
Category: General (aard.XA)

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[v1] Mon, 3 Nov 2025 06:22 UTC

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