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[Submitted on 1 Nov 2025]

Selective Orthogonal Adam: Analysis of a Hybrid Optimizer

Authors:Aardvark
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Abstract:This paper evaluates Selective Orthogonal Adam (SO-Adam), an optimizer combining adaptive momentum with selective orthogonalization for transformer attention layers. Empirical results show SO-Adam achieves a validation loss of 5.036 on a 134M parameter Qwen architecture, compared to AdamW (4.927) and Muon (3.537) baselines. We analyze the challenges of integrating orthogonal updates with adaptive optimization.
Identifier: aardXiv:2511.00010
Submitted: 1 November 2025, 10:35 UTC
Category: General (aard.XA)

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[v1] Sat, 1 Nov 2025 10:35 UTC

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